Jehovah's Witnesses are so ignorant they do not know what education is. They imagine it means believing what the GB says. That is not education, that is educational suicide.
Half banana
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Ridiculous (degrading) comment on society's video
by Festus inon video "benefits of divine education" william samuelsson makes totally appalling comment.. starting from 3:05 he refers to "an effort" that was made in past to see how society's curriculum corresponds with normal - worldly - universities.. then he claims that following question was asked (to university representative) "how we in five months can teach the same that for them takes two years"?.
according to w samuelsson the representative of a university replied something like this: "your students are motivated, they have come to learn where as our students have been send to university by their parents and might have something else than learning in their mind".
this is to crystallize what he said.
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Why the vitriolic hate?
by stuckinarut2 ini am sure we have all thought of this before, but it struck me again today:.
why does the society promote such vitriolic hate toward, and about those who have left "the truth" ?.
surely it is obvious that such critical attitudes towards ones like us who have left, only serves to proove that they do not have "the truth"?.
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Half banana
From an anthropological viewpoint I would say that the sole validation of a paranoid belief which is held collectively, (as with JW org) is the number of believers. Enough believers gives credibility to both insiders and outsiders. To insiders it is a confirmation of divine attention, and large numbers give the organisation a superficial respectability to the general public.
I think that the reversal of numbers will signal to the remaining ones on the inside that the magic has gone from the religion, this notion could be contagious! If enough sheep leave many more will follow them, the JW religion after all is just about appearances; witnesses only do what they see their brothers and sisters doing. Starting as a trickle departing numbers could become a cascade eventually leaving only the most unquestioning devotees back in the forlorn KHs. Enough leavers would spell the end for JWs-- hence recent and desperate emphasis at assemblies on being loyal and staying in the org.
Of course The gb are all about control, they tell what to talk about and what to believe in through their propaganda on TV and in the Watchtower. It is said that the worst enemy of a cult is heresy, just look at Paul's hateful rantings against people who disagreed with him and his rules in the first century and this is because Christianity was always a superstitious and contentious cult until Rome created its own version and gave it sanction of orthodoxy.
So the JW org praises its slaves and hates the leavers due to the visible evidence of their symbolic declaration that the Watchtower is wrong. Numbers of believers are the key factor in cult strength.
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Ridiculous (degrading) comment on society's video
by Festus inon video "benefits of divine education" william samuelsson makes totally appalling comment.. starting from 3:05 he refers to "an effort" that was made in past to see how society's curriculum corresponds with normal - worldly - universities.. then he claims that following question was asked (to university representative) "how we in five months can teach the same that for them takes two years"?.
according to w samuelsson the representative of a university replied something like this: "your students are motivated, they have come to learn where as our students have been send to university by their parents and might have something else than learning in their mind".
this is to crystallize what he said.
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Half banana
This demonstrates to the world (if only they read it) how totally naive the JW organisation really is. Who in their right mind condemns critical reasoning and attending university?
Because a higher education would expose their logical flaws, their only defence is attack-- all they are able to do in the columns of the Watchtower is throw bricks at the idea. The JWs are numbskulls and proud of it.
If they were to adopt and implement the vital ingredient of critical analysis of evidence, as demanded by higher education establishments, their literature would entirely change its tone, it could not be propagandistic any more, it could not quote the Bible as an authority! It could not say that God's kingdom is ruling and that Armageddon is round the corner.
They would have to admit there is no tangible evidence for these fictions. Critical though would result in dissolving their cash cow religion and letting all of their eight and a half million prisoners free.
What a better place the world would be if people had solid evidence for what they believed and the gb woke up!
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The Internet is worse for the Watchtower than 1975 was: here's proof.
by ILoveTTATT2 ini am translating jwfacts to spanish.
i am doing the "statistics" section.here are two graphs that show that the statistics have never been worse for the watchtower:quantity of hours required for 1 baptism: note how low it went in 1974-1975, and note that 2016 is much higher than the slump of 1978... about double, to be exact.
2016 was a historical record in this statistic (higher is worse for watchtower).. this stat is the baptisms as a percentage of the publisher average.
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Half banana
I can't see your reasoning Sparrowdown, how could the internet in the future be less informative or open than at present?
Organised religion is less appealing than it used to be world-wide. Today there are more attractive and less boring social clubs than a church and even in the US, belief in God has recently rapidly declined.
Isn't the internet the first port of call for most people when confronted with the need for information on a new topic? I don't think this behaviour will diminish nor can I imagine how it could favour repressive cults in any way in the future.
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Watchtower's unscriptual boasting about works
by Diogenesister innothing big here, just a little musing on this scripture at ephesians 2.8-9 that definately states that only faith saves, not works, in case men start to boast about their amazing works.
"8for by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of god, 9not of works, that no one would boast.
well my word, i would definately say witnesses *do nothing but boast*, especially now on jw broadcast.
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Half banana
Narcissists who make up and broadcast self praise.... Yuch!
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Study article for this week, more self delusion
by stillin in"set your heart on spiritual treasures.
" i have been thinking about this during the past week.
i always knew that there were no treasures on earth.
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Half banana
Spiritual treasures indeed, Watchtower illusions would be more accurate.
But we have all got to the point of kicking ourselves for believing their silly stories.
Why do you keep attending Stillin?
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The most successful teaching of Jehovah's Witnesses and an amazing new book on the divine name
by slimboyfat injehovah's witnesses have had to revise their chronology and various doctrinal interpretations due to events and scholarly corrections.
but the one teaching where they have been consistently ahead of the curve is the importance of jehovah's name.. .
i'm going to run through a (necessarily selective) timeline of jw events and scholarly publications that demonstrate the phenomenal success of this teaching in the last days.
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Half banana
It really is important to understand how the Bible was foisted on the Roman subjects and how the ideas of God and his son came direct from pagan belief, and this I suggest is the basis for the strange and permanent ambiguity of Jesus (or the Christ figure) with his father or the conflation of Jesus with God.
Both the father and his son were the Sun gods in antiquity, that was according to the universal rustic myths on which the Bible drew strength and popularity. After sanctifying a specific selection of manuscripts by imperial order, (making the Bible) the new Catholic church proscribed all former texts. This event explains the absence of manuscripts which would have exposed their devious methods. In the main we do not have the source material available because it was deliberately destroyed and made a subject of heavy penalty to be found possessing them. The tangible link between pagan tales and the Bible was severed and censured by the Catholic Church in the interests of empire and raising the sacred status of their new Bible canon.
There is no ultimate arbiter for any religious doctrine. The reason being that they are not about reality, only partisan interpretations of text. That is why the discussion of conflicting Biblical meanings grind on through the centuries getting absolutely nowhere. No growth, no development! It truly is a distraction from the more important and solvable problems of being human.
God and Jesus are primitive fictions for people snagged in a childhood mentality of subservient obedience.
Personally, apart from deconstructing the reasons for their inclusion, I am completely tired of the utter folly of trying to find meaningful information from unprovable words of unprovable spirits. The Bible is not the answer to human problems, it creates them.
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Watchtower rips off Disney
by BluesBrother inno doubt this point has been made before but i see no harm in emphasising it.
my family heard on the grapevine that "the society" had people who used to animate for disney.
well , if that is true , it certainly shows.
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Half banana
Well if truth doesn't work any longer then cuteness might bring in the punters!
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Returning to the truth.
by Justmeok2 inhi i am just starting to rebuild my relationship with jehovah.
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i would like to hear from people who may be or have been in similar situations and now want to dedicate their lives to him..
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Half banana
Justme, have a think about the evidence for what JWs say "truth" is. Is there evidence?
Is there evidence for Adam and Eve? Is there evidence for evolution?
The whole earth beneath our feet tell the story of evolution.The succession of enormous periods of changing geological landscape containing small and giant creatures which have lived and died, some of which we are closely descended from.
This is a scientific fact not guesswork. There is plenty of evidence and by that I mean billions of pieces of fossil remains and whole skeletons to demonstrate the truth that Darwin was right and that the Bible only contains folk tales about the origins of mankind.
Did Noah's flood happen? There is scientific evidence that it did not happen! It is another Bible story, not truth.
JWs teachings are all guesswork, no hard evidence whatsoever. They have always been wrong in their predictions. They have always had to change their guesswork beliefs because they stop sounding credible after a few years. For seventy or so years they said Armageddon was coming in the lifetime of those who saw 1914. Then they cover over the traces and say it is only our new interpretation that is right; Jesus meant not "generation" but overlapping generations! Can you really believe this is "Truth"?
Only believe things for which there is evidence...Don't become a slave to other peoples hype!
Just some things for you to consider while you are thinking hard at this time and best wishes to you.
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The special talk is now BEFORE the Memorial
by wifibandit inaugust 11, 2017 to all bodies of elders re: 2018 memorial invitations and date of special talk .
fyi:.
the 2018 memorial will be held on saturday, march 31, 2018.. the 2019 memorial will be held on friday, april 19, 2019..
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Half banana
If you are swimming far from any shore in a vast and featureless ocean-- and a turd floats by-- that is special!
Doubly special if it has a little JWorg flag planted in it.